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  • 10 Feb 2026 09:58
    Reply # 13596385 on 9327660
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    It’s great you were able to just flip the set of main panels in one piece, and not have to unstitch and re-stitch individual panels.

    I don’t think your sheeting should mess with the drape of the sail. From the photos, it appears you are using the spanned running parrel downhauls, and if they are positioned and fixed correctly on the battens, when they are tensioned up a little they should pull the main luff up to the mast, and both luffs will be nice and straight. 

    I found it necessary to fool around a little with the positioning of these parrel downhauls, adjust (and then fix) their positions to get a good setting sail. After that, they should keep the luffs nice and straight and the sail positioned exactly where you want it in relation to the mast. It doesn't take much to overcome the aft-seeking pull of the sheets.

    ((I think my jib luff is very slightly shorter than the main luff - or maybe exactly equal - certainly not longer - so when the main luff is tensioned a little, the jib luff necessarily carries a little tension as well. Nothing like the tension you would put on the luff of a bermudan sail, or a western lug sail - just enough to ensure they are straight, and the main luff is alongside the mast).

    While I was finding the best position for the halyard sling point, and getting the parrel downhauls exactly where they work best, I too found it necessary to add a running yard parrel, but later, when the rig was tuned, I found I didn’t need it any more. Now I just have a standing parrel for the yard, just to stop the yard  flying too far away from the mast.

    I keep a little tension on the parrel downhauls, and after reefing or shaking out a reef, they need to be adjusted again. I just have a couple of cam cleats for that. I found it necessary to have a downhaul on the boom also, but it was suffiicient for that to be just a standing downhaul – it takes up a bit of tension against the halyard when the sail is fully hoisted. It does nothing at any other time, so no need for it to be adjustable.

    One trick I discovered by accident, is to find a way to arrange those parrel downhauls so they can’t run out very far, even when the control end is cast off from the cam cleat. They can be constrained so that they just slack off enough to allow the battens to go up and down. How you do that depends of your way of setting them up so I can’t explain how you should do it, but you can have these running parrel downhauls set up in such a way that even when they are completely slack at the control end, they never let the battens stray too far away from the mast.  In that case, adjusting them just needs a quick tweak to smooth out any creases, and there is no urgency about doing it.

    Once set up, it seems to me after that to be a very pleasant and easy rig to manage.


    Last modified: 10 Feb 2026 10:03 | Anonymous member (Administrator)
  • 10 Feb 2026 05:49
    Reply # 13596354 on 9327660

    Well guys, we nailed it!


    Flipped the main around and we got some good looking baton rise. 


    Now. The jiblets still need to be tuned, when I pull down on the front of the sail, they look great. Im going to try and move the stadic yard parrel back and see if that helps balance the rig a bit. I feel like the sheets are going to mess with it a bit though so I was wondering if is normal practice to tie in the down hull with pipe clamps or something to keep the sail from being pulled aft by the sheeting?

  • 08 Feb 2026 22:53
    Reply # 13595796 on 9327660

    keep junking !

  • 08 Feb 2026 17:20
    Reply # 13595711 on 9327660

    Thanks David.

    Thanks Jan. 

    I flipped the main sail and all looks good. I am going back to the boat today to rase it up. Hopefully this it the cure  

  • 06 Feb 2026 12:41
    Reply # 13594941 on 9327660

    Hi  !

    I think somebody suggested mainlets before. And I think he was right then. If we tighten (now) the halyard to a 10(5?)-degree batten angle (rise), the pleats on the jiblets will decrease and the pleats on the mainlets will increase. Ergo, I'd try turning the mainlets upside down.

    Regards - Jan

    Last modified: 06 Feb 2026 15:21 | Anonymous member
  • 06 Feb 2026 06:40
    Reply # 13594909 on 9327660

    Hi, Jeoffrey.


    2 things I see which don't look right to me and 1 which I am just wondering about.

    1. The battens seem to have negative rise, ie, lower at the leech than at the luff.

    Did you design the sail with positive rise in the battens?  If so, then for starters the sail isn't hoisting correctly

    And/or, possibly you may have the sail hoisted too tightly, putting those diagonal stretch lines into the panels.

    2. It may be an optical illusion, but the max camber point on the "lense" either side of each batten, seems to have the max camber point on the upper, further back than on the lense below the batten. 

    This makes me wonder again if you have put the jiblets on upside down, especially if you designed the sail with positive rise. ie, with the batten rising slightly towards the rear. 

    3. How tightly have you tightened the panels along the battens, fore and aft. Again if they are overtaut, that would be inclined to induce diagonal stress across the panel.


    So, I'd firstly slacken the sail slightly to see if that makes an improvement.

    Make sure the battens are getting any rise that you designed in.


    If that doesn't cure it.

    Then the bit you dont want to do.  Unsew the top panel at the jiblet and reverse the jiblets to see if you put them on upside down.

    An easy mistake to make. 

    Last modified: 06 Feb 2026 06:45 | Anonymous member
  • 06 Feb 2026 04:04
    Reply # 13594889 on 9327660

    Here we go.

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  • 05 Feb 2026 21:38
    Reply # 13594771 on 13594665
    Jeffery wrote:

    Well back here in texas...

    I lofted the sail agen. Here are photos of the sail completely loos. Just a stadic yard parel and a jarry riged sheet line for the top panel.[...]

    Jeffery,

    I think maybe you did not attach the photos.

  • 05 Feb 2026 18:24
    Reply # 13594665 on 9327660

    Well back here in texas...

    I lofted the sail agen. Here are photos of the sail completely loos. Just a stadic yard parel and a jarry riged sheet line for the top panel.


    This is what I am seeing. Despite pulling down on different parts of the sail, the shape stays the same. (Sorry I couldn't get any pictures of that) I am thinking that I have the main sail upside-down based on the direction of wrinkles.


    Another problem is that I am getting too much friction in my 5 part block. This caused an alarming amount of deflection in the upper secton of my mast. I'm thinking this was caused by some twist in the 5 part as well as the stadic yard parel. More so the yard parel then the twist.


    What yall think?

    Last modified: 05 Feb 2026 18:27 | Anonymous member
  • 20 Jan 2026 05:06
    Reply # 13587092 on 9327660
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    I wouldn't get rid of the sail catcher. You can never muzzle the jibs properly with lazyjacks - sail catcher is an important accessory for a SJR in my opinion, not for sailing but for protecting and controlling your sail when reefed or fully furled, especially those jibs which will pop out of the lazy jacks and flutter. You'll see.

    I think now you might be partly on the right track (Ueli's observation is correct, and the diagonal crease in that upside down jib in my photo backs it up) that the severe creases in the jib might not be caused by the jibs being upside down but by what it looks like that the booms and battens might be just hanging, with a negative rise instead of a positive rise. You won't know until you have hoisted the sail properly and tensioned the parrel downhauls a little. (Don't forget also at some point if you haven't already done so, you will probably want to add a standing downhaul to the boom. Once you have that, you can hoist the sail against it and get it to peak properly, and then take some photos).

    I won't make any bets about the mains being upside down or not, but you'll know soon enough.

    One step at a time, you'll get there, might not be as bad as it looks.

    Last modified: 20 Jan 2026 05:38 | Anonymous member (Administrator)
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