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Pacific Seacraft Flicka 20 junk conversion?

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  • 02 Feb 2023 08:04
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     I bought my Flicka 20 at a very affordable price since she is in a rough condition and needs more or less total refit. I intend to keep her for a long time and I want her to become a JUNK! 

    I am going to start the process soon and I will try to post the progress.

    Regards,

    Kristof

    In that case, GO FOR IT, you will have a whole lot of fun in the process and we will enjoy your progress reports.
  • 01 Feb 2023 22:57
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    I agree with the advice from Hans-Erik to keep the old rig (at least the mast  and rigging, the sails might have deteriorated). The first thing I did was sell the bermudan rig on my Serendipity but I wish I had kept it now - I might want to sell the boat, but I will want to keep my junk mast and sail! Looks like Scott (and others) did the same. Oh well...   

    However, I am not so sure that your project will degrade the boat's current $value - its a good thought to keep in mind, before commencing a project like this - but if you do a good job, I would suggest the opposite. Most of these 1970s 80s boats are now due for new sails and rigging anyway, which will cost a lot more than your junk rig. Approach the task as an enhancement (which it surely will be).

    The Rhode Island fishing boats and the Falmouth Quay Punt may well have a common ancestry. We had a designer in New Zealand called Bert Woolacott who popularised this model, many of which have done successful ocean voyages and untold coastal cruises.

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  • 01 Feb 2023 21:21
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    Erik wrote:

    Conversion to JR will degrade the $ value of any boat

    Now you tell me, Erik!

    I would also hesitate to modify a Flicka 20. I think these are likely the most expensive 20 foot boats ever made, and they seem to have held value over the years.


    Last modified: 01 Feb 2023 23:17 | Anonymous member
  • 01 Feb 2023 21:20
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    Thanks Graeme for all the info. I will definitely use files in conversion process. I read that Flicka was designed after some old fishing boats in Rode Island but she certainly looks like Falmouth Quay Punt. I am very excited to start the process but I know I will need a lot of help and advice during conversion. 

    Hans-Eric thanks for your comments. I understand that junk rigged boat may not be as sought after as bermudan rig. I bought my Flicka 20 at a very affordable price since she is in a rough condition and needs more or less total refit. I intend to keep her for a long time and I want her to become a JUNK! 

    I am going to start the process soon and I will try to post the progress.

    Regards,

    Kristof
  • 01 Feb 2023 08:38
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    Reply # 13080484 on 13078361
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    Would a Flicka 20 make a good JR?
    Yes.
    (Almost any boat can be successfully converted to JR.)

    Should you convert a good condition Flicka 20 to a JR?
    Think long and hard.
    Flickas are highly sought after tough and capable little blue water pocket cruisers that can even be trailered and have a cult following almost as strong as JRs.
    This means they command prices way above their size/age compatriots but as Bermudan or Gaff rigged boats.
    Conversion to JR will degrade the $ value of any boat but especially boats as sought after as Flickas.

    As a minimum store the original rig if you can.
  • 31 Jan 2023 08:15
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    A couple of hours after the previous post I returned to the computer and found, as it happens, the Whangateau Group on Facebook (Pam) has just posted a tribute to Marcus's Flicka Sweet Thursday and promised a further suite of photographs.


    The post also included a link to the History of the Flicka which I expect Kristof will find of interest.




    Last modified: 31 Jan 2023 08:16 | Anonymous member (Administrator)
  • 30 Jan 2023 22:00
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    Welcome to the forum. Yes we do have a member who has one of these vessels, which is currently a bare hull - a long-term project which at the moment is on hold - here in New Zealand. The owner is an experienced sailer and also experienced with junk rig conversions, leaving me in no doubt that your little boat would convert nicely to junk rig. A lovely little boat of the "Falmouth Quay Punt" hull shape.

    You will get plenty of help on this forum. Also, if you go to (Members' Area) "Directories" you will be able to search for the vessel Sweet Thursday  and perhaps make email contact with this fellow Flicka owner, who has sketched up his own proposed junk sail, a fanned cambered type -  a little different from the standard Hasler/McLeod type which appears in your link.

    (The mast will need to be placed in a position forward of where the the original gaff-rig mast was, as shown on your Sailrite link. These days a variety of junk sail planforms abound, making possible a small range of different mast positions which is sometimes helpful in harmonising with interior arrangements).

    PS I found these lovely CAD drawings on an old BoatDesign.net thread here.

    I've also got the original lines, if you need them.


    Last modified: 31 Jan 2023 02:12 | Anonymous member (Administrator)
  • 30 Jan 2023 20:42
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    My name is Kristof and I am a long time lurker on this forum. Recently I acquired Flicka 20. I am seeking an advice on junk conversion. Mainly I just wanted to ask any members with experience if this particular boat would be a suitable platform for junk rig. I came across this Image so somebody must have already thought about it.

    https://www.sailrite.com/Flicka-gaff-Cutter-Junk-Rig-Sail-Data

    Any comments greatly appreciated.

    Regards, 

    Kristof
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