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Mast position

  • 20 Oct 2026 10:35
    Reply # 13754399 on 13753359
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    Andrew, I found a position just ahead of Kingfisher 26 Antares's coachroof worked well. That's where I'd put your mast. Junk rigged Kingfishers were sold with the mast stepped through the forward slope, with cast aluminium partners shaped to conform. Beken's photo shows the sail hauled forward to ease the helm on a broad reach. The broker's photo was taken while she was sold most recently.
    Thanks Asmat. That looks perfect. i don't like the idea of hacking into the sloping part of the cabin roof but there's a nice bit just ahead of that.
    How do you go about hauling the sail forward, and does that get rid of the weather helm completely?
  • 19 Oct 2026 22:12
    Reply # 13753359 on 13753182
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:

    Andrew,

    here is how I presented four versions of the Johanna-style sails:


    Arne, thank you. Sorry its taken a while for me to respond, I've got too much going on at the moment! I had a good poke around in the cabin the other day and on deck and the best possible position for the mast would be just in front of the deck slope. It's clear, top and bottom, retains the forward hatch, doesn't obstruct the door to the heads and even allows for some shenanigans in the forward berth!
    Do you think I can assume that as a mast position and adjust the balance accordingly?

    Andrew, I found a position just ahead of Kingfisher 26 Antares's coachroof worked well. That's where I'd put your mast. Junk rigged Kingfishers were sold with the mast stepped through the forward slope, with cast aluminium partners shaped to conform. Beken's photo shows the sail hauled forward to ease the helm on a broad reach. The broker's photo was taken while she was sold most recently.
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  • 19 Oct 2026 20:26
    Reply # 13753183 on 13745199
    Anonymous wrote:

    Andrew: Here is a repeat of Paul Th's diagram, if it didn't come through before.


    Thank you Graeme
  • 19 Oct 2026 20:25
    Reply # 13753182 on 13745012
    Anonymous wrote:

    Andrew,

    here is how I presented four versions of the Johanna-style sails:


    Arne, thank you. Sorry its taken a while for me to respond, I've got too much going on at the moment! I had a good poke around in the cabin the other day and on deck and the best possible position for the mast would be just in front of the deck slope. It's clear, top and bottom, retains the forward hatch, doesn't obstruct the door to the heads and even allows for some shenanigans in the forward berth!
    Do you think I can assume that as a mast position and adjust the balance accordingly?

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  • 15 Oct 2026 00:49
    Reply # 13745199 on 13709997
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Andrew: Here is a repeat of Paul Th's diagram, if it didn't come through before.


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  • 14 Oct 2026 22:25
    Reply # 13745012 on 13709997
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Andrew,

    here is how I presented four versions of the Johanna-style sails:

    • The lower the yard angle, the bigger the mast balance you get for the same halyard angles...

    ..and...

    • the lower the yard angle, the taller mast will be needed to get the same sail area.


    (full size diagrams at Arne's sketches, section 6-46)

  • 14 Oct 2026 20:41
    Reply # 13744868 on 13743713
    Paul Th once gave us a diagram which shows that relationship between balance and yard angle, and here it is again. 


    Graeme, I'm afraid the sketch didn't come through.I think I understand the relationship. Is it too simplistic to say that a higher yard angle simply allows for more sail area behind the mast?

    Would you be kind enough to address my other question which was basically if I get the mast slightly in the wrong place, can I compensate by changing the sail plan?

    Thank you, I do appreciate all this attention.

  • 14 Oct 2026 20:34
    Reply # 13744857 on 13743125

    Still, now I have tested a yawl alternative on that Sabre. As you can see, that little 3.5sqm jigger will move the CE over two feet aft of the CE of the junk sail alone.
    Lots of work with that extra mizzen, but at least, installing the main mast will now be easy.

    (Full size diagram under Arne's sketches, section 9-24)


    Arne, that is a very interesting concept but I'm afraid it's not for me. I'm sure there must be a better way? Doesn't the original Johanna sketch work on its own?


  • 14 Oct 2026 20:31
    Reply # 13744852 on 13743943
    Therefore, until the bug  (feature ?)  causing "copy-paste" images to disappear is fixed, I would still recommend using the "attach file" method for posting images on the forum. 


    I used the "attach file" method in my last post and it didn't seem to work well. Don't know why.

  • 14 Oct 2026 12:25
    Reply # 13743943 on 13709997

    Hi everybody !

    I follow the posts debating the merits of different junk rig configurations with great interest and would gladly weigh in, but I would like to draw attention to another matter: my forays into the forum archives last winter revealed that many posts become completely useless when they contain images inserted via "Ctrl-C, Ctrl-V." 

    Such images vanish forever into the forum's depths, leaving behind empty frames; even if the author remains a JRA member, they likely won't remember what the images depicted after a while. 

    Therefore, until the bug  (feature ?)  causing "copy-paste" images to disappear is fixed, I would still recommend using the "attach file" method for posting images on the forum. 

    Of course, this is just my personal opinion.

    Regards- Jan

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