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  • 06 Oct 2017 09:09
    Reply # 5298728 on 5056827

    Hello Brett,


    Apologies for the late reply. I got busy at work and haven't checked the forum lately. As Paul says, Shoestring is currently moored at Stillwater with the intention of moving to the Mahurangi in summer to sail with Footprints.

    You are welcome to call over any time but going for a sail depends on time and tides etc. She recently got a new mast and I am using the original flat sail with a mixture of bamboo and fibre-glass battens, no doubt there will be lots of experimenting in the future to match Footprint's performance! If you would like to stop by, my email is rscot462@gmail.com.

  • 24 Sep 2017 01:29
    Reply # 5276405 on 5275677
    Brett Sadgrove wrote:So where is Shoestring hiding?
    Shoestring is in Stillwater Creek
  • 23 Sep 2017 09:45
    Reply # 5275677 on 5056827
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    That's correct, look in the background. Don't look at the dinghies, look past them.


    So where is Shoestring hiding?

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  • 23 Sep 2017 08:38
    Reply # 5275653 on 5275649
    Brett Sadgrove wrote:

    Thanks for that sail David. Just spotted your sister ship in a TradeMe add, check out listing number,1424806102. There are 5 pics on that listing, look what's in the background in pics 234.

    When I entered the number, I got a listing for 2 dinghies: I suspect it's something else that you meant me to see!  Do you have the url - you've got me curious now.
  • 23 Sep 2017 07:27
    Reply # 5275649 on 5056827
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    Thanks for that sail David. Just spotted your sister ship in a TradeMe add, check out listing number,1424806102. There are 5 pics on that listing, look what's in the background in pics 234.

  • 06 Sep 2017 06:26
    Reply # 5065050 on 5064898
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    Brett Sadgrove wrote:

    Didn't see that,

    I would sail in a bath tub if it were offered, I have all the time in the world. I'm in Orewa, so not too far away.

    Cheers, 

    Hi Brett, You are almost 'just down the road'. Get in contact with me via my profile contact details. I am happy to take you out, both individually yourself, and then with your family. It would be a good introduction to junk rig sailing and a chance to talk about various boat options. 


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  • 06 Sep 2017 02:39
    Reply # 5064898 on 5056827
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    Didn't see that,



    I would sail in a bath tub if it were offered, I have all the time in the world. I'm in Orewa, so not too far away.


    Cheers, 

  • 06 Sep 2017 01:50
    Reply # 5064843 on 5064796
    Brett Sadgrove wrote:Next step will be to get the boss out and see what she thinks. We dont know people with boats so its impossible for us to get out and for her to experience sailing. Will try to get her out over summer, even if it only means a day sail on a charter on the harbour.
    Brett, David offered to take you for a sail in his wonderful Footprints.  I'm sure Penny would be included!  And Mahurangi is a delightful place for your first sail.
  • 06 Sep 2017 00:45
    Reply # 5064796 on 5056827
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    Thanks

    I am new to all this, so rather nieve when it comes to pricing. I like to look ahead so i know what i could be letting myself in for. A friend of mine told me you must have all your ducks in a line. He was talking about buy-in from the boss(wife) being the most important. I did a three day sail class with Penny 2 years ago, but nothing since. I have been looking ever since at boats and what we could possibly afford.

    The next step is to get my son involved which he is about to do next month through Russell Coutts sailing academy at Manly. That will give him a taste and answer many questions and i hope he loves it. Next step will be to get the boss out and see what she thinks. We dont know people with boats so its impossible for us to get out and for her to experience sailing. Will try to get her out over summer, even if it only means a day sail on a charter on the harbour.

    Worst case both are not interested, I will just go for a day sailor like the John Welsford Navigator/Pathfinder. Or even import those lovely looking BayRaider 17/20 from Denman Marine in Tasmania. Will know either way by the end of this summer.

    I dont suffer from BBS (Bermuda Baggage Syndrome) so are quite open to alternative rigging set ups. The whole construction Black hole seems endless.........

    I have stopped work to be a home dad for my son, so ironically have all the time during the day but no space to build. The day sailors would be a go to build but I would not be allowed to do this in our garage. We dont even have an area to set up a lean-to down the side of the house so building one at our current location is not going to happen.


    David, where would I go to look at your design, is there a specific designer check out? Web page?



    As a side note:


    Is anyone going to the New Zealand Clinker Boat exhibition 7-8 October Karanga Plaza, Halsey Street, Wynyard Quarter. 10am-4pm.




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  • 04 Sep 2017 07:57
    Reply # 5062137 on 5056827
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    There is no doubt that if you put up a Post on the JRA Forum you are going to get a lot of lively debate. Fortunately in the case of the JRA it is all from knowledgeable people, and Annie Hill is one of the worlds most experienced and knowledgeable junk rig sailors. 

    The 9m Minijongue is an interesting design. Her big sister Lakatao was in New Zealand during the summer of 2015/16. She was a great boat designed and built in the true spirit of the original Chinese junks. An additional advantage of these designs is that they are actually purpose designed for the junk rig.

    As a bit of a cost guide my own 10 metre boat 'Footprints' was professionally built in New Zealand 20 years ago at a cost of around $110k. I imagine it would cost at least half as much again, if not more, to have the same boat professionally built to the same standard.

    if you are genuinely and realistically interested in a new build you should have a look at Annie's new boat, and at some of the other junk rig boats in NZ. This will give you an idea of what is possible. What is good is that New Zealand currently has a fairly active group of junk rig sailors, so there is a lot of knowledge, expertise and experience locally available.

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