modifying a Sangria to junkrig

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  • 10 Jun 2025 22:20
    Reply # 13508870 on 13487971
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Eris write: "The vertical effort is very low. The only effort is lateral..."


    Yes and no. I agree, Jaques' strengthening in that area is probably more than adequate - provided the mast is fixed firmly in position at the heel.

    Pitching in a seaway does create quite a lot of downward momentum to the mast. We had a famous case many years ago of David Lewis last voyage, in a junk rigged boat. He never got out of the Hauraki Gulf. The mast "jumped" out of the mast step, in a choppy sea - and then fairly quickly punched its way through the hull.  End of voyage. He was rescued.

    Last modified: 10 Jun 2025 22:21 | Anonymous member (Administrator)
  • 10 Jun 2025 20:50
    Reply # 13508836 on 13487971
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Bonsoir

    Stuck is the english word for étambrai.

    I suppose that "mast flore" is for the "mast step". 

    The vertical effort is very low. The only effort is lateral. A few cm should be enough.

    Amicalement

    Eric

    Last modified: 10 Jun 2025 20:53 | Anonymous member (Administrator)
  • 10 Jun 2025 08:43
    Reply # 13508582 on 13488558
    Anonymous wrote:

    Jacques,
    Now, in the hope that the mast position can be accepted, I have drawn  a taller sail, taken from The Johanna 60 series of master sails, with AR = 1.98 (instead of the previous 1.89).This is about the tallest sail I dare to suggest. In case you will do most of your sailing, crossing oceans, I suggest you go for the lower version.

    Arne


    (..full size diagram under Arne's Sketches, Section 8 - 36...)

    Arne,

    Some News :

    Mast : In september , I get back a street lamp in aluminium ( 10 m , diameter At the bottom  : 16 cm At the top : 10 cm )

    Questions :

    What thickness for mast floor ? 

    What thickness for " étambrai " (in french) : 60 mm 6 x 10 mm ?  for reinforcement deck ?  Omega ou Porque 

    PS : Bermudian Ring For sale  !!!

    Have a good day 

    Jacques

  • 22 Apr 2025 15:47
    Reply # 13490462 on 13487971

    Arne,

    I'll probably opt for the low version 9.31m  ( sail : AR 1.89 sqm  29.8m²)

    What type of mast should I choose? 

    wood ?

    alu ?

    hybrid : alu-wood ? I fear connexion 

    Carbon ( too expensive)

    Diameter ?

    Thanks for informations 

    Jacques 


  • 17 Apr 2025 15:24
    Reply # 13488558 on 13487971
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Jacques,
    Now, in the hope that the mast position can be accepted, I have drawn  a taller sail, taken from The Johanna 60 series of master sails, with AR = 1.98 (instead of the previous 1.89).This is about the tallest sail I dare to suggest. In case you will do most of your sailing, crossing oceans, I suggest you go for the lower version.

    Arne


    (..full size diagram under Arne's Sketches, Section 8 - 36...)

  • 17 Apr 2025 10:26
    Reply # 13488466 on 13487971

    Arne,

    Many thanks,

    File is very clear 

    Nevezadenn has  normal draft

    Next week : Il will take measurements on Nevezadenn.

    I will come back to you as soon as possible.

    Have a good day


  • 16 Apr 2025 18:21
    Reply # 13488191 on 13487971
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Now I had a go.
    Unfortunately, to get the CE where it was in the Bermudan rig, The mast had to move a bit further forward.
    The alternative would be to shorten the battens and make a taller sail, or even rake the mast forward.

    If you can live with the shown mast position, then this sail will be good. A slightly bigger version (B=4.90m) (almost the same...) of this sail is already in use on two other boats, Boudicca, and Ylvi.

    https://bit.ly/3GSvilq

    Arne


    (..full size sailplan in my album; Arne's Sketches, section 8 -35...)

    Last modified: 16 Apr 2025 20:52 | Anonymous member (Administrator)
  • 16 Apr 2025 13:51
    Reply # 13488020 on 13487971

    Arne,

    Attached plan 

    1 file
  • 16 Apr 2025 11:21
    Reply # 13487984 on 13487971

    Arne , Sorry 

  • 16 Apr 2025 11:21
    Reply # 13487982 on 13487971

    Rane

    Thanks for informations , it's top.

    For hatch, i verifie and back to you 


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