Small improvement of Aerojunk rig

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  • 16 May 2025 11:17
    Reply # 13499884 on 13496653

    Paul, the spreadsheet shows that the friction has been overcome.

    There is enough surplus power left to reduce the camber.  

  • 15 May 2025 13:06
    Reply # 13499433 on 13496653

    Hi Nic,

    I would also be in doubt whether the friction could be overcome... However, there is no better way than to build and test it! ;-)

    Cheers,

    Paul

  • 15 May 2025 09:11
    Reply # 13499396 on 13496653

    OK, did go through all calculations.

    Changed and redefined a few cells and the result convinced  me that it is indeed doable.

    Any arguments against, with calculated explanation is welcome.

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  • 11 May 2025 11:49
    Reply # 13497808 on 13496653

    Hmm, forgot the Jib, which means that the tension on the sheet would be 25% less?

  • 11 May 2025 04:21
    Reply # 13497787 on 13496653

    I did make a spreadsheet with a calculation of the pull force on the outhaul arrangement. I only need a sane approximately value for resistance.

    Any ideas?


    Edit

    I found some factor on the internet and implemented it in the spreadsheet.

    It shows that my original idea does nor work, but starting from the top and attaching it to the sheet in the bottom would probably go?

    That seems to be wrong thinking.

    Last modified: 15 May 2025 09:12 | Anonymous member
  • 09 May 2025 16:27
    Reply # 13497288 on 13497270
    Anonymous wrote:

    I think you will find your idea will suffer from friction with all the blocks but if you want to try it then please go ahead. 

    Hi Paul,

    yes I was considering that too, but we need first to establish a number for how much force would be needed to pull the system, then.assume a factor of resistance for the blocks (nylon would help). If the tension of the sheet would be showing to be to little, it could be solved by a multiple-part pull system like we do with halyards and sheets.

    Can you estimate how much pull force would be required per grommet?

  • 09 May 2025 16:02
    Reply # 13497270 on 13496653

    Hi Nic, yours is an interesting idea. I did think of ways to flatten or deepen the camber but in the end designed the sail for an ‘average’ wind. 

    I think you will find your idea will suffer from friction with all the blocks but if you want to try it then please go ahead. 

    Paul

  • 08 May 2025 19:03
    Reply # 13496906 on 13496653
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Merci Nic

    Now I understand !

    Eric

    Last modified: 08 May 2025 19:05 | Anonymous member (Administrator)
  • 08 May 2025 15:43
    Reply # 13496805 on 13496653

    Hi Eric,

    I edited my post and attached a, Hmmm. Sketch.

    Hope it is clear.

    Last modified: 08 May 2025 16:06 | Anonymous member
  • 08 May 2025 14:34
    Reply # 13496766 on 13496653
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Bonjour Nick

    I have some issue in understanding the concept. Could you provide a drawing ?

    Eric

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