Nantucket clipper

  • 28 Jun 2020 11:45
    Reply # 9065350 on 9065299
    Anonymous member (Administrator)
    Annie wrote:

    The clipper bow certainly appears to be a bit of a vanity and an add-on extra, but I have met 2 or 3 people who have sailed fairly extensively on these boats and rate them highly.  It would appear that very few boats react negatively to being rigged as junks.  If it were me, and I liked the boat,  I'd go for it, but put in a lot of effort to keep the mast light. Good luck!



    I think Annie has a very good point. I looked up pictures of the Nantucket 29, and apart from the lengthened nose, the hull lines looked good, in my view. Her designer, Alan Buchanan (1922-2015) was after all a well-respected designer. If I were to fit a JR to an N29, I would first draw a false bow a foot or so from the real one, and use this as a reference when  positioning the mast. The mast of my Ingeborg sits 14% of the waterline from the bow. I have even seen successful boats with the JR mast only 12.5% from the bow (at the wl.). With the false bow line as a reference that should bring the mast far enough aft to avoid static or dynamic nose-down problems, as long as one keeps the mast’s weight around 2.5-3% of the boat.
    I haven’t checked what position of CE will come out of that.

    Then, before jumping at it, one must check that the mast doesn’t collide with the interior...

    Arne

    Last modified: 28 Jun 2020 11:45 | Anonymous member (Administrator)
  • 28 Jun 2020 10:53
    Reply # 9065299 on 9061660

    The clipper bow certainly appears to be a bit of a vanity and an add-on extra, but I have met 2 or 3 people who have sailed fairly extensively on these boats and rate them highly.  It would appear that very few boats react negatively to being rigged as junks.  If it were me, and I liked the boat,  I'd go for it, but put in a lot of effort to keep the mast light. Good luck!


  • 27 Jun 2020 15:55
    Reply # 9064044 on 9061660

    Thank you guys, I did not expect such thoughtful thinking!
    On this project, nothing is yet started. If it goes on, I surely make you guys know, but I can't goany further for the moment.

  • 26 Jun 2020 23:44
    Reply # 9063068 on 9061660

    You may be right, David. I am certainly making an assumption, based on the Nantucket's deep forefoot, which is characteristic of a true clipper bow, rather than a cosmetic vanity. Then again, I suppose that long overhang plus that teak plank bowsprit suggests that there must be enough reserve buoyancy there to support all of that weight.

    My personal predudice is in play here - I think a clipper bow looks beautiful on a long, lean hull like Cutty Sark's, but is just foolish on a 31ft cruiser, even one drawn by a respected designer such as Alan Buchanan.

    Asmat

  • 26 Jun 2020 22:13
    Reply # 9062988 on 9061660

    I think Asmat has made an assumption in regard to his advice. Looking at plans and photographs of the Nantucket she has a fairly full bow with the clipper nose and bowsprit added on the front. I do not see any reason she should not be a candidate for junk rig. A schooner rig with a small foresail mast in the fore deck and a larger main mast in the center of the saloon would, I think, make an excellent rig for this design.

  • 26 Jun 2020 15:05
    Reply # 9062074 on 9061660

    Thank you for your advice. Too bad... The boat just looks so nice! But I quite agree with you, although I have no real idea of the change in weight distribution if junk rigged.

  • 26 Jun 2020 13:33
    Reply # 9061833 on 9061660

    Clipper bows have fine waterlines and lack buoyancy, compared with a more apple  -cheeked hull form.The weight of a junk mast well forward, combined with the thrust of the sail, running downwind, would tend to depress the bow. I don't think a Nantucket Clipper would be very happy under junk rig.

  • 26 Jun 2020 10:34
    Message # 9061660

    All stations ...

    Hello to all members of this wonderful association.
    I have the possibility of acquiring a 29ft Nantucket Clipper with yawl rig.

    Has anyone converted such a craft to junk rig?
    Any of your opinion on that matter will be welcome.

    Sincere regards to you all,
    Patrick

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