S2 6.7 Junk Rig Conversion

  • 21 May 2021 00:44
    Reply # 10527951 on 6872873

    Congratulatons from me too.

    My little Serendipity has slight lee helm sometimes, in very light wind - and when pushed hard and heeling develops excess weather helm. This is not unusual - hull shape has a lot to do with it, you can't always entirely solve that. But with a small boat like yours -at least with Serendipity anyway - I have found that if I sit right at the front of the cockpit in light airs, the lee helm becomes neutral. And I have to make sure the centreboard is fully down.

    (If heeling a lot and over-pressed, the excess weather helm is mitigated by sitting right back at the stern and if necessary, raising the board a little).

    Adjusting a swinging centreboard is likely to be more effective for this purpose than with a vertically raising board like yours - but still, make sure it is fully down if you have lee helm. Altering for-and-aft trim with your own weight, if you can, should make a noticeable difference to the helm, on a small boat).


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  • 20 May 2021 15:58
    Reply # 10526531 on 6872873

    Thank you David and Annie,

    At 2.5 years into my one year plan to convert this boat I am very happy to finally be sailing.

    I was out a few more times but I have been too focused on sailing the boat to stop and take some photos. I am pleased with how the sail turned out. I credit Arne's excellent instructions for that result. The parts where I had to use my own ingenuity are not so great. I need to find a better mast/tabernacle hinge.

    Annie: Can please tell me, does Fanshi have a large insulated pipe clamp for a hinge, or was that custom made?

    I still need to get some fendering on the boom and yard, and do something about getting the empty boat trimmed a little better (move the battery again). I need a hoop to keep the sheets off me, and I would like to have a windvane to steer for me -- so maybe by the 2030's sometime I should be done?

    I am a little concerned about the helm balance. With the right wind speed and the right angle into the wind it is perfectly balanced. This is huge change from my South Coast 23 where I had to pull against the weather helm constantly. But in light air the boat has lee helm. I am a lot more comfortable with neutral or weather helm than lee helm. I am concerned that I might not be able to tack in some situations. This could be dangerous.

    I have the sail set pretty far aft already. I wonder if I got the mast too far forward or if maybe there is some (unintentional) forward mast rake.

    I decided to name the boat 'Thread'.

  • 20 May 2021 04:51
    Reply # 10524961 on 6872873

    Well done Scott.  Another example of "just keep plugging away and eventually you will get there".  You must have been excited finally to try it all out.  And now you have the whole summer to look forward to!

  • 19 May 2021 20:39
    Reply # 10523952 on 10516377
    Scott wrote:

    I rigged the sheets and went sailing.

    I am still trying to decide if I like having a mooring this close to the Sheriff and Coast Guard dock.


    First sail, that is a great achievement. And from what we can see of the small amount of sail you have up the sail looks great. Look forward to photos of the full sail up, and to hearing about your upcoming sailing adventures. You got there, from the inception of the project a few years ago, right through to completion and first sail. Keep us up to date with how it all goes.
  • 17 May 2021 14:02
    Reply # 10516377 on 6872873

    I rigged the sheets and went sailing.

    I am still trying to decide if I like having a mooring this close to the Sheriff and Coast Guard dock.


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  • 14 May 2021 08:30
    Reply # 10493921 on 6872873

    Hi Scott, Unfortunately I have no videos of my boat sailing but I want to make some this Summer. I also used cheap plastic rollers fitting a 6 mm rope for changing direction of the running rigging going from mast partner to the starboard side and it is attached with a shakel to the unused chainplate because the mast is free standing without any stays. Each plastic roll has even an aluminium shaft and these I attached with screws on each side of the ss side plates.

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  • 13 May 2021 18:33
    Reply # 10479233 on 6872873

    Don't worry, Scott. For every one of us who actively posts on the fora about our doings, I'm sure there are plenty of lurkers who read our posts with interest. Anyway, it's a good motto to live by that "if you have nothing relevant to say, say nothing".

  • 13 May 2021 14:55
    Reply # 10478069 on 10475954
    Karl wrote:

    Hi Scott,

    I like reading your thread and the rigging of your boat interests me quite a bit. As I am in my 4th year sailing my litte boat I am thinking more of renewing my sail to a cambered one and also of having a new yard beam and battons. That is why I askred Arne about the padding of the yard. Thanks Arne and I will let you all know my progress in my own thread.

    Karl

    I am glad someone is reading! Sometimes I feel like I am talking to myself when no one responds to some of my rambling (or complaining). 

    As long as the discussion is still about sailboats I, personally, do not mind if the conversation in 'my thread' gets off topic with other people discussing things.

    I looked through the photos of your current boat and sail. Both look very well done. Do you have any videos of the boat making sail, sailing, and reefing?

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  • 13 May 2021 07:16
    Reply # 10475954 on 6872873

    Hi Scott,

    I like reading your thread and the rigging of your boat interests me quite a bit. As I am in my 4th year sailing my litte boat I am thinking more of renewing my sail to a cambered one and also of having a new yard beam and battons. That is why I askred Arne about the padding of the yard. Thanks Arne and I will let you all know my progress in my own thread.

    Karl


  • 12 May 2021 20:52
    Reply # 10474583 on 10473553
    Anonymous wrote:
    David,

    I am attempting to rig the sheets with an even more stingy method than the Ronstan Shocks. I bought a quantity of plastic rope thimbles. With some sanding and maybe some McLube Sailkote I hope to use this plastic eyes as 'blocks' to connect the mainsheet to the sheetlets.

    It astounds me that you were able to build and rig an entire boat in much less time than my still unfinished conversion. How do you like your new boat. I think it is an ECO 55, is that right?

    The little plastic thimbles could work. You would need to lash two together for each sheetlet, pointed ends in, as they need to be able to move on both the sheetlets and the main sheet. If the plastic is smooth and shiny you may not need any lubricant.

    Actually it astounds me that I was able to build my boat so quickly! I don't know where I got all the energy from, but I think it was all about momentum, once the project got started and wound up I just wanted to get it finished, plus there was the added motivation of not having a boat for the upcoming summer.

    My boat is the Eco 6. I am enjoying the boat a lot. It is a big step to go from 10 meter boats with all their comfort down to only 6 meters, But the Eco 6 has a huge interior for it's length. So far the boat is doing all the things I wanted: easy to handle and sail with good performance, shallow draft, able to put on the beach for maintenance, relatively low cost, great big cockpit. I have a big coastal cruise planned for next summer of some weeks duration. After that I will decide if I keep the boat, or go for something larger. The trouble is, that as Annie found, the only way to really get the boat you want is to build it, and I don't know if I can be bothered doing it again. But, I would still like a junk rig catamaran .........

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